But then, that was not just a joke, he knew the reality, he had seen it all from quite close. Close enough to understand all the risks and fears, fears that crossed those of the one in risk, cuz it was all in the family. So he knows, and somehow I have known to an extent too, that we do need more measures, safety, from natural as well as man-made threats. We need to give more value, more respect to life. Our fourth pillar needs and deserves that respect.